We've been talking about having another weblog party for the past month or so, but we can never decide on a date. Right now we're thinking about the weekend after spring break. But that will probably change.

Anyway, last night we decided to try something a bit different from the last weblog party. It will be more like a dinner party, except our guests will do the cooking, Iron Chef style. We'll provide a theme ingredient and let two contestants battle it out to produce the best dish. Then the other guests will critique the dishes and select a winner. We'll have to charge all the guests a small fee to cover the meal. Any money that we don't spend on food will go to the winner. The loser has to do all the dishes.

Of course, the key is finding people willing to put their culinary skills on the line in our kitchen stadium. Any volunteers?

Comments: 2 Posted by david on 28 February 2003 at 4:11 PM

It was Chris's birthday on Wednesday. I think he's 33 now. Maybe 34. Anyway, happy birthday.

Comments: 1 Posted by david on 28 February 2003 at 3:55 PM

I have tests today and tomorrow, plus a problem set due before my exam tomorrow, so the next 30 hours or so will be rather hectic. But once these exams are out of the way, I should be pretty much free. At least for a while. I'm probably not going to go home for spring break until Monday or Tuesday, because I need to make some progress on my independent study project before spring break ends, and hopefully two days of work will get me to where I need to be on that.

Okay, time for some last minute studying.

(Why did I stay up so late last night?)

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 25 February 2003 at 12:36 PM

What a day for reestablishing connections. In the past twenty-four hours I've received emails from two high school friends, an IM from a third, and an email from one of my old roommates here at WashU. Now I just have to write them all back. Well, it'll make for good breaks as I study for my two tests this week.

have a craving for Thai food right now, but I don't think that the Thai Country Cafe or one of its sister Thai restaurants is open right now. And driving through this snow might not be the best plan in the world. So I'll have some ice cream or something. Or just go back to reading about Computational Geometry.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 23 February 2003 at 11:38 PM

Friday was the first ACM programming contest. Things went pretty well. A couple of technical glitches, but we got them figured out. And there were plenty of contestants, and, in contrast to the last programming contest ACM put on, people actually finished the contest. The only real downside was that none of the people writing their programs in Java managed to turn in a correct program. We had correct submissions is Perl, C, and a combination of awk and C++, but no Java. Was Java poorly suited to solving this problem, or do the best programmers at WashU move on from Java as quickly as they can? The next contest is the Friday after spring break. Hopefully the Java groups will do a bit better then.

Oh, if you want to take a look at the problem, it's online at http://acm.wustl.edu/contest/index.php#past.

Comments: 2 Posted by david on 23 February 2003 at 1:14 AM

I didn't intend this to be a warblog-esque post. I've never really felt like voicing my political opinion here. You most likely don't care what I think about Iraq, Osama, the death penalty, or abortion and I certainly don't want to be involved in any of the arguments that seem to inevitably follow the discussion of these or any number of other issues. However, while doing some reading related to michael's (gasp!) post, I came across an opinion piece that I found particularly interesting. That article is here.

I find the article less interesting for its opinion, which I happen to mostly agree with, than for the perspective it gives me. Europe has been working for a decade to make themselves into a cohesive force that, once combined, rivals the US as, if nothing else, an economic power. And now it seems that Jacques Chirac is throwing all of this away for popularity in France. I guess this proves that Europe isn't yet enlightened enough to throw away 1000 years of petty and not so petty squabbles and a daunting language barrier. Tip O'Neill said that "all politics are local." This is apparently as true in Europe today as it ever was in the US.

As an aside, and I really ought to be saving this for a different post, I believe that the main problem with the media here in the US is a lack of foreign coverage. How many of you knew that Tony Blair was staking his personal popularity and legacy on the war with Iraq? His approval rating is down lower than it has ever been before, and I doubt if many people here in the US realize the sacrifices he's been making to support our policy against Iraq. Certainly, no one really cares. It's a bit of an eye-opening experience to read a periodical with a decent coverage of foreign issues, and I'd recommend everyone give it a try.

Comments: 1 Posted by david on 18 February 2003 at 10:05 PM

its my own fault for reading cnn.com, I guess, but today they gave me a clear example of why I am losing faith in the media. maybe Im overreacting, but to me it seemed like blatantly bad journalism.

in this article CNN reports on French President Jacques Chiracs rebuke of certain Eastern European countries recent public support for the United States. I wont go into more detail, because the topic of the article is of little importance. this isnt a political discussion. my issue is with the following excerpt.

CNN European Political Editor Robin Oakley described Chirac's outburst as "pretty grumpy and imperious."

"For him to lecture these applicant countries or these accepted members on their way in was really behavior like the worst of what the French complain about in the United States," Oakley said.

"It was bullying really. ... It was very, very tough stuff. I think some of the other EU leaders will feel it was out of order.

"But perhaps it shows just how much Jacques Chirac was stunned by U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's differentiation between what he calls 'old Europe' and 'new Europe.'"

CNN European Political Editor Robin Oakley? Im sorry, but that strikes me as completely inappropriate. your editor is not a source. you cannot quote your editor. this is a news story. you cant call Chirac "grumpy." they have a special kind of article where editors are allowed to call people grumpy. they are called "editorials." in news articles, the editors opinion stays out of it. you cant editorialize right in the middle of a news story.

Oakleys quote provided no new facts and no interesting insight. it was nothing but opinion and speculation from someone whose opinion is not news. I find that to be lazy and unethical journalism. and maybe I am overreacting, but I think more people should be upset about this.

Comments: 1 Posted by michael on 18 February 2003 at 6:37 PM

I don't know why I haven't mentioned this yet, but I bought a new monitor last week. My motivations for doing so were mixed. I was jealous of michael's 19" CRT monitor, which rendered 1280x1024 screen resolution without requiring you to sit with your nose inches away from the screen, which wasn't the case with my 17" IBM CRT. But I was also jealous of Chris's new 15" flat panel LCD. The colors were very vivid and it took up very little space on his desk. But it, of course, couldn't handle the high resolutions that I usually work at.

So I was stuck there trying to weigh high resolution against vivid colors and a small footprint when I found a bargain online. An 18" LCD. It handles 1280x1024 as well as michael's 19" CRT, and its colors put every other monitor I've seen to shame. I no longer have to lean in close to my monitor to read email or write code. I don't know how I managed to use a 17" screen for so long.

On a related note, if you've never tried using a dual-head system, you really should give it a try. I have things set up so I can use both my laptop's screen and my new monitor, and the productivity increase is unbelievable. I never have to alt+tab between applications or drill down through window after window to find the one I'm interested in. Here's a screenshot that illustrates how big my desktop is with two monitors.

Comments: 1 Posted by david on 17 February 2003 at 11:03 PM

I’ve been writing a paper this weekend. A few observations.

1. I lack the ability to properly type the word “restoration.”
2. Times New Roman lacks an “o” with an overbar character.
3. Doing the associated reading before starting the paper will lend a consistent voice.
4. Doing the associated reading after starting the paper probably means there are still arguments that supported your first, erroneous thesis floating about in your paper.
5. It’s time for bed when you start wondering how many pages your weblog post would fill if it were double-spaced.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 17 February 2003 at 1:42 AM

I've reached my limit regarding pop-up and pop-under and pop-wherever ads. But I haven't been able to find a good pop-up blocker. My current solution is a program called PopUpStopper. Its main feature is its cost: free. But it has the nasty habit of preventing pop-ups that I want, like the comment link on this page. In order to get things like that to load, I have to ctrl+click, which is a bit tiresome. So if any of you have used a pop-up blocker with Windows and Internet Explorer before, please let me know. I'm mainly looking for a program that will intelligently decide^* which pop-ups to block, without resorting to a whitelist or some other cop-out method that makes me do all the work. Free is good, but I'm willing to pay a reasonable price for a good product.

^* My gut feeling about pop-ups is that one mouse-click should only result in one webpage being loaded. I think this is the only rule you need to eliminate pop-ups. You just have to decide on a metric for deciding which window to open if multiple ones are spawned. If I knew how to program add-ins for Internet Explorer, I'd give this a go myself. But I don't, so I need to find someone else's product.

Comments: 5 Posted by david on 16 February 2003 at 7:25 PM

I’ve just installed version 2.6 of movable type here on -273. The upgrade went quite well, I think, but let me know if you experience any problems. To go along with the mt upgrade, I also installed the Textile and SmartPants plugins. Movable Type has a drop-down box for text formatting. If you select Textile from the drop-down and click the ? link, you can get some instructions on how to use Textile. Or, you can use this tool to experiment with using textile. Let me know what you think.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 16 February 2003 at 4:31 PM

Google just bought blogger. I'm eagerly waiting to see what Ev has to say on all of this, but it certainly seems like a good move from pyra's pov. Not too sure what google gets out of this, though.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 16 February 2003 at 2:49 AM

The replay TV here in apartment 12 is, in general, a success. I watch more TV shows than before, but spend less time in front of the TV. The downside is that interacting with the Replay TV is usually a frustrating experience. The scheduling engine seems kludgey at best and there is often a two or three second lag between pressing a button on the remote and things happening on the screen.

The main area that sonic blue needs to improve is the scheduling of shows to record. If I want to record CSI from 8-9pm on Thursdays as a guaranteed recording, their engine prevents me from recording anything else during that time block on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays. The ability to differentiate days of the week would be a huge step forward for this system.

The other main issue is responsiveness. I don't much care about the delay involved in flipping between channels. I understand that buffering is taking place, and its no different than using the digital cable my parents have. But what i do mind is pressing a button on the remote, waiting a bit while nothing happens, thinking the replay TV hadn't received the signal, pressing the button again, and then having the replay TV respond to both button presses, usually by undoing whatever I was trying to do.

Comments: 1 Posted by david on 15 February 2003 at 1:00 AM

Apartment 12 has been finding furniture left and right. A couple of weeks ago IEEE rearranged their lounge and got rid of one of their couchs. After it sat in the hall outside their lounge for a couple of weeks, michael and I persuaded Jim Tucek to borrow his mom's van and move it over here. Then, a few days ago, as michael and I were leaving Bryan Hall to go home, we discovered that some of the old chairs from the library were being thrown out. After a lot of struggling we managed to get two of them into the Echo and back here, where one has replaced the broken chair at our kitchen table, and the other fills some empty space next to the tv.

All of these furniture acquisitions have led me to wonder why WashU doesn't run a consignment shop. Departments can have their excess furniture moved to the consignment shop where other departments, students, and the general public could come and buy it. It would make more sense than the current system, where a few items get listed on the surplus property page and the majority of unwanted items end up in dumpsters. At least calling a charity and having them haul it off would make more sense than throwing it out.

Comments: 2 Posted by david on 13 February 2003 at 10:00 PM

Jeremy Bentham, the noted 19th century philosopher, invented the word "international." He also invented the word "auto-icon." While you're probably familiar with "international," I doubt that your familiar with "auto-icon." This is a good thing. Auto-icons are dead bodies preserved as statues. In his essay "Auto-Icon, or the Uses of the Dead to the Living" he wrote

If a country gentleman has rows of trees leading to his dwelling, the auto-icons of his family might alternate with the trees; copal varnish would protect the face from the effects of rain.

No doubt you are thinking to yourself that Bentham was just a crazy old guy who went senile and started thinking about dead bodies as he was dying. But you have no clue just how crazy he was. If you visit University College in London, you can see Bentham's auto-icon. His skeleton is there, wearing his own clothes and holding his walking stick. He had originally intended his head to be there as well, but it decayed and was replaced by a wax replica. For many years the head sat between his feet in the icon, but, according to the legend, proved to be too great a target for college students, who often stole it.

The rumors that Bentham's auto-icon regularly attends meetings of the College Council, and that it is solemnly wheeled into the Council Room to take its place among the present-day members, where its presence is noted in the minutes by the notation "Jeremy Bentham - present but not voting" are untrue. However, it is apparently true that the auto-icon is wheeled out for utilitarian gatherings of Benthamites. (Bentham was the father of utilitarianism -- the idea that man has "a propensity toward pleasure and good and against pain and evil.")

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 12 February 2003 at 10:02 PM

In praise of the guys in skinny black ties

By Dan Neal, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 4, 2003

Like children frightened by a father's tears, we have to worry when engineers cry.

Amid the weekend's terrible images -- the flaming shuttle, the blasted debris, the ruined families -- the one that troubled me most came from the most unlikely place: a news conference with the scientists in charge of the mission.

Swallowing tears on Saturday, shuttle program director Ron Dittemore grappled with his grief before a devastated nation.

"There's a certain amount of shock in our system," he said. "We have suffered the loss of seven family members."

Granted, it was a mild reaction, given the circumstances. Oprah Winfrey can gnash more teeth over a set of sit-ups. But somehow the engineer's brave understatement cut deeper than O will ever go.

When the guy with the pocket protector cries, when the catastrophe is so shattering that even the egghead cracks, we know instinctively that there's more at stake than personal loss. We never know why, never know exactly what's going on, but we know enough to fear that it might mean the end of the world as we know it.

Because the world as we know it belongs to the engineers.

They built the cars we drive, the roads we drive on. They designed the homes we live in, developed the crop system that keeps our bellies full.

They invented the TVs we worship, the phones we yak on and every one of the silly or suddenly indispensable gadgets that prop up our lives. From umbrellas that save us from the rain to medical equipment that saves us from death, engineers are the ones who make our world possible.

They do it without fanfare. They demand no pats on the head. And for their efforts, generally, we mock them. They can send a man to the moon, we gripe, but they can't make a VCR you can program, or a computer that doesn't crash, or a you-fill-in-the-blank.

We don't know -- we aren't even interested in -- how VCRs, computers and "blanks" work, so we can't be expected to help solve these problems ourselves.

But like teenagers tooling around in Dad's Corolla, we can make fun of the folks who feed us: Look at the geeks and pinheads in the skinny black ties, we say. They don't care about clothes, they never get dates, they aren't "in touch with their emotions."

These guys are so out of it, we jeer, they think calculus is fun, and studying and working are the only things worth doing in the world.

And when that world breaks, of course, the engineers are the ones we blame -- and the ones we count on to fix it. While the rest of us stand by and wring our hands over the latest calamity, we expect them to get to work and make everything whole again.

Usually, they do. Because, by nature, they are the fixers, the problem-solvers, the men and women behind the scenes who make the trains run on time, no matter how they might feel at the moment. They don't resent the role, they treasure it and believe in it -- believe with the indomitable optimism that keeps this country moving forward that no matter how bad things get, there's nothing that human ingenuity and hard work can't fix.

"This is a bad day," chief flight director Milt Heflin said at the news conference, his eyes red with grief. "I'm glad that I work and live in a country where... when we have a bad day, we go fix it."

We have no choice but to believe him. Yes, we're shaken when the ones who are supposed to be calm and logical and in control are reduced to tears, and, yes, we've had a bad day.

But while people like us can't fix it, we know people like Milt Heflin probably can.

dan_neal@pbpost.com

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 12 February 2003 at 2:57 PM

Have any of you ever been to radio-locator.com? It's a comprehensive list of radio stations around the country. You can search for stations by format, frequency, location, or a bunch of other parameters. It will even show you a map of the station's coverage area once you find it. For example, this map explains why 93X drops in and out here in St. Louis. And here is KWUR's coverage. Anyway, I need to stop playing around with this and get back ready for school.

Comments: 1 Posted by david on 12 February 2003 at 12:57 PM

Catching up on sleep doesn't really work. On Saturday night, I decided that I needed to catch up on all the sleep I'd missed during the last week, so I slept until late in the afternoon on Sunday. As a result of all this I stayed up until quite late last night, partly to finish work that I needed to have done for today, and partly because I hadn't really been awake that long. So now the cycle has started over again, because I only got seven hours of sleep last night.

Comments: 1 Posted by david on 10 February 2003 at 1:43 PM

I was working on some changes to a system I'd written for whirlpool over break tonight, when everything started falling apart around me. My computer gave me a blue-screen-of-death when I hit the refresh button in my browser while trying to view some changes I'd made to a page. When I rebooted, I tried to reconnect to whirlpool's vpn, but every time I connected, the AT&T Global Dialer spit out some kind of database corruption error and shut down. I retired restarting the client umpteen times, and rebooting my laptop who knows who many times, but to no avail. So, I was thinking a reinstall of the software is probably in order. So I go to the site to download a fresh version of the software, when the router here in the apartment goes out. I tried a soft reset, but no luck. So I tried a hard reset, which worked, but wiped out all of the router's settings. Since I was going to have to type all the settings in again, I decided that I might as well drop the new firmware onto the router. I'd downloaded it yesterday, so I didn't need an internet connection to get it. Everything seemed to be going fine after the firmware install, but the wizard that configures the router died halfway through the process, and I couldn't get the router's web admin page to come up in my browser after that. So I did another hard reset, and persuaded the router to let me configure it. Once all the basics (PPPoE, SSID, etc.) were taken care of, I had to take my room apart to find the list of MAC addresses that your computers use and enter all of those into the router. I finally finished about 15 minutes ago. And now I don't have the energy to get the Global Dialer working, so that will have to wait until tomorrow.

Anyway, that's the story that explains why I have three files from whirlpool's web server sitting on my desktop waiting to be uploaded. I just hope I can get the dialer working tomorrow.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 10 February 2003 at 3:04 AM

Tonight was the merit scholar dinner. All of us in the engineering school who have WashU scholarships are treated to a free meal and then afterward are recruited to help with merit weekend, the event where the engineering school invites 14 high school seniors to WashU to compete for scholarships. Last year I was lucky enough to be one of the interviewers (the engineering school is evil and make all the high schools interview with six teams of three interviewers). The meal has caused me to start thinking about what questions I'll ask if I get to interview this year. Last year I went with these three questions:

1. Tell me about your school.
2. What is the best invention of the last 100 years?
3. What is your favorite TV show?

I was pretty disappointed by the responses I got to these questions. The first one was an ice breaker, and I wasn't really expecting any useful information to come from it, but the last two questions really let me down. One girl told me that mechanical pencils topped all inventions from the last 100 years. (It was totally coincidental that I was fidgeting with a mechanical pencil during the long time that she remained silent while peering around the interview room and thinking about an answer.) And easily half the students told me that they didn't ever watch TV and had no favorite show. That was the biggest cop-out answer ever.

So my experience last year is causing me to try to think of some new questions. Here's one Chris and I thought of last night:

What is the worst novel you had to read for a high school literature class?

As a variant we can ask about the most overrated story they had to read in high school. This question stemmed out of a discussion about the fact that interviewees almost always lie to the interviewers. If you ask them about the last book they read for pleasure, the odds are greater that it will be The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway than Big Trouble by Dave Berry. Anyway, any feedback, question ideas, or other comments would be appreciated.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 8 February 2003 at 2:04 AM

-273 has been getting a lot of hits for "Kelly O'Donnell NBC email" or "Kelly O'Donnell NBC Hot." So if you came to this page searching for Kelly O'Donnell, let me point you in the right direction. The only Kelly O'Donnell I know was a 1998 graduate of Evansville North High School and a 2002 graduate of Syracuse University. He majored in Broadcast Journalism. He currently works for WTVY in Dothan, Alabama. This is NOT the same Kelly O'Donnell that all of you are looking for and I do not know how you can get in touch with the other Kelly O'Donnell.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 7 February 2003 at 8:15 PM

Computer Science students here at WashU (and engineers in general?) have the annoying tendency to refer to all classes by number. To a certain extent, this is explained by the fact that our courses are named things like "Developing Object Oriented Software with Patterns and Frameworks" and "Introduction to Formal Languages and Automata" (CS 342 and CS 507, respectively), but it leads to conversation that go something like this:

my mom: What are you taking this semester?
me: 506, 525, and 554.

Really, its just a secret language we use to keep from having to explain that what we do isn't really that complicated; it protects the myth that we practice pagan rituals and make sacrifices to the binary gods one and zero in order to get the computers to do our bidding.

Anyway, I've noticed an odd corollary. When I leave the engineering school (well, I don't physically leave it, since my class is in Cupples II 220) for other classes, I never refer to them by number. (I also try to avoid ever referring to them, but that's another post.) My Modern Japan class, for example, is History 320. I never refer to it as 320 or even History 320, even when in conversations with people who have taken the class and would know what I was talking about. But if I take a class in another engineering discipline, I always refer to it by its number. SSM 317, EE 280 and EE 250 are all good examples. So I wonder, are engineers predisposed towards being non-communicative, or is it something we develop after spending time in an environment where we intentionally obfuscate even simple things like the classes we're taking?

(An interesting side note. Even when forced to actually name our classes, we have a second layer of obfuscation to fall back on. Most classes have shorter, well-known and understood names that appear nowhere in the course listings. For example, CS 431 is formally titled "Translation of Computer Languages," but it is always referred to simply as "Compilers." CS 455, formally titled "Programming Systems and Languages," is always called "Scheme.")

Comments: 1 Posted by david on 7 February 2003 at 2:16 AM

The two best commentaries that I've read about the Columbia disaster are both by Gregg Easterbrook, senior editor of New Republic, a contributing editor of The Atlantic Monthly, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution, and a football columnist for espn.com. The first of the two articles was written before any of the shuttles launched, in 1981. (The article is quite long; there's an excerpt here.) The other article appeared over the weekend in Time magazine. I found both very interesting and worth reading in their entirety.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 3 February 2003 at 1:44 PM

Why did I not know until today that Dave Barry has a weblog?

I think there are to many "writers" and "journalists" keeping blogs these days. How are the rest of us supposed to compete with their "spell-checked" entries and their "actual knowledge" of things of interest to more than 20 people?

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 3 February 2003 at 12:18 PM

Add up all the time I was in the car today, and I could have driven to Evansville and part way back to St. Louis. I wasn't out in the gorgeous weather that much, but at least I was able to drive with the windows rolled down.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 3 February 2003 at 2:56 AM

Over the past week or so, michael, not having been to the grocery store for weeks, asked to borrow some of my food. A bag of potato chips one day, another bag the next, etc. Each time I agreed that he could borrow them without thinking about the bigger picture. Now I find myself wanting to fix some dinner, but not having enough food for a full meal. I have plenty of entrees, but no side dishes. michael has, of course, promised to replace everything he borrowed. But that was Wednesday, and today is Sunday, and I'm hungry. So I need to go to Schnucks and replace everything I loaned him. I think I'm going to have to stop sharing food.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 2 February 2003 at 4:57 PM

Joe Tucek and I were nearly killed by the red robot today when Aaron Beckerman initiated its "kill all humans" mode. Well, actually, he just mistakenly had it drive straight ahead at 1 m/s while Joe and I were sitting in its path about 8 feet from it, but my initial description sounded better. So the robot comes barreling at us (1 m/s is pretty fast) and slams into Joe, who is pushed into me. I couldn't reach the emergency stop buttons because they were blocked by a crudely built camera mount, so I tried punching the front of the robot. (If I trigger the touch sensors, the robot base will shut down and the robot will stop moving.) Joe, having a better angle than me, went for the stop button. We came out of everything with no injuries, but in the aftermath managed to initiate the robot's shutdown procedure. He deserved it though.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 1 February 2003 at 5:50 PM

I'm running late this morning so I this post will probably be expanded on later.

Anyway, I'm sure you've all read about the space shuttle by now. If not, check out CNN or the NY Times. It's a bit eerie that this happened the week of the President's state of the union address. You'll recall the rumor that Ronald Reagan's desire to talk to Christa McAulife in space during his state of the union address was one of the reasons that top officials at NASA pushed to have the Challenger take-off go as scheduled even when the engineers knew it was unsafe.

Also worth mentioning is the International Space Station. There are still three people up there, which argues against grounding the entire shuttle fleet for a year, like they did after the Challenger disaster. Although there is an emergency Soyuz module docked on the ISS and Russia could probably be persuaded to go get them (possibly at a cost of $20m per person).

I have to wonder if NASA's new "smaller, better, cheaper" policy migrated over from the unmanned missions to the manned ones. NASA is under some tight budget constraints these days, and you have to assume that there is a threshold below which they can't safely send astronauts up. I wonder what the congressional response will be? Hearings, of course. But in the end NASA's budget will either go up or down. I'm hoping for up. It seems a bit macabre, but I'm kind of hoping that this will get people interested in the space program again.

Okay, now I'm really late. More later.

Comments: 0 Posted by david on 1 February 2003 at 11:43 AM